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LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 6, 1858.

Notes. BACON'S ESSAYS.”

On recently becoming possessed of a copy of Singer's edition of Bacon's Essays*, I counted myself a happy man, heedless of the warnings of Solon and the Son of Sirach. However, after running my eye over my acquisition, I found cause to cry out with Croesus, “O Solon, Solon!”

Before detailing the reverses of fortune I ex- perienced, I may mention that I have never seen any notice of this work which was not unquali- fiedly favourable: and that the preface leads one to expect a careful editor and judicious annotator, having an high sense of the responsibility of the task he has undertaken, and the qualifications necessary. In it Mr. Singer makes these just remarks on Abp. Whately’s edition :

Here the Essays of Bacon form a very dispropor- tionate part of a large octavo volume, the Abp. having taken them as texts or hints for long dissertations and extracts from his own writings. . . . But the most extra- ordinary feature in the volume is a running verbal com- mentary, furnished by a friend, in which the commonest words, such as every reader of English must be presumed to be acquainted with, are explained, with citations of other authors who have used the word. . . . But, indeed, the English of Bacon rarely requires a note; it is re- markably lucid, and free from archaisms and obsolete forms of expression.” P. xxi.

Now let us apply these remarks to some of Mr. Singer’s own notes. What are trivial and super- fluous notes, if the following be not ?

Bacon (Ess. 1. p. 3.) says of Lucretius: The Poet that beautified the Sect that was otherwise inferior,” &c. Mr. Singer appends this note: Beautified, i.e. embellished, set off to advan- tage.”

In Ess. vir. p. 23., we have a note explaining the word “creatures.” In Ess. xx. p.77., do. “Cabinet Councils.” In Ess. xxu. p. 83., do. “pack the cards.” In Ess, xxix. p. 114. there is a note to tell us the meaning of “nice.” And in Ess, xxxu. p. 132., “in marish and unwhole- some grounds,” we have a note to explain that “marish is the old form of the word Marsh or Marshy.”

These may suflice as instances of trivial notes ; let us pass on to those in which the trivial cha- racter is merged in the erroneous.

The first three notes which follow are, to say |

* “Bacon’s Essays, with the Wisdom of the Ancients,

Revised from the Early Copies, the References and a few Notes by Samuel Weller Singer, F.S.A.” don. Bell & Daldy. 1857.

The exquisite taste with which this beautiful book has been gotten up reflects the greatest credit on its esti- mable publishers, and proclaims them true successors of the English Aldus.

supplied, | L

the least, of very questionable accuracy and pro- priety :

Ess. xx. p. 79.:—

In private, Men are more bold in their own humours; and in consort, Men are more obnoxious to others’ hu- mours; therefore it is good to take both.”

Note. Obnozious to, i. e. liable to opposition from.”

Obnoxious here simply means subject to, sub- servient to, influenced by ; and does not deserve to be treated as an archaism.

Ess. xx11. p. 83. :

“It is one thing to understand Persons, and another thing to understand Matters; for many are perfect in Men’s humours, that are not greatly capable of the real part of Business; which is the constitution of one that hath studied Men more than Books. Such Men are fitter for Practice than for Counsel.”

Note. Practice here means intrigue, confederacy.” [ ?]

Ess. xiii. p. 163. :

“In Beauty, that of Favour is more than that of Colour; and that of decent and gracious Motion more than that of Favour.”

Note. Favour is general appearance.”

Favour rather means feature, countenance. In Dr. Shaw’s edition of Bacon the passage stands thus: “In Beauty, that of Make is greater than that of Complexion,” &c.

We now come to downright blunders:

In Ess. xxx. p. 110.:

Number itself in Armies importeth not much, where the People is of weak Courage; for (as Virgil saith) It never troubles a Wolf how many the sheep be.”

Note. Virg. Ecl. vii. 51. The sense of the passage in Virgil seems to be: After the shepherd has counted the sheep, the wolf is careless about deranging the reckoning.”

A greater error, however, is to be found at p- 167. Lord Bacon, dwelling on the importance of site, in building (Ess. xiv.), observes :

Neither is it ill Air only that maketh an ill Seat ; but ill Ways, ill Markets; and, if you will consult with Momus, ill Neighbours.”

An ordinary man would consider this passage so plain as to require no comment; Mr. Singer, however, thinks differently, and appends the fol- lowing extraordinary note :

T.e. If you are disposed to lead a pleasant life, Mo- mus being the god of mirth.”!!

I need hardly remark that Momus is not the god of mirth” (unless Sardonic mirth), but the god of mockery and ridicule, carping and fault- finding : and that this most unnecessary note de- stroys the whole force of the passage.

Again, in the Wisdom of the Ancients, in the Fable of Pan, at p. 270., occurs this passage :

« Of all natural things, there is a lively, jocund, and a

| dancing age, and an age again that is dull, bibling, and

reeling.”

Note. Bibling is here used in the sense of tottering. The Latin is: ‘Omnium enim rerum est «tas quedam hilaris et saltatrix: atque rursus tas tarda et bibula.’

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Now it is very true that tottering may suit the antithesis better than bibling, and that in Dr. Shaw's Bacon (Lond., 1733, 4to., vol. i, p. 62.), we find the former word :

“With these continually join the Satyrs and Sileni, that is Youth and Age; for all things have a kind of young, chearful, and dancing time; and again their time of slowness, tottering, and creeping.”

Yet, allowing all this, what authority has Mr. Singer for assigning to the word bibling (Latin, bibula) the sense of tottering ?

I shall advert but to one note more. In the Fable of Dionysus, at p. 321., Lord Bacon says :—

A Man can hardly distinguish between the Acts of Bacchus and the Gests of Jupiter.”

Note. Here again the Montagu edition in consum- mate ignorance prints the Jests of Jupiter!’

Now, Mr. Singer, in bis anxiety to show up “the Montagu edition” on all occasions, here overshoots himself somewhat, and betrays his ig- norance of the fact that in old writers this word is written indifferently “gest” and jest:” thus, in Sir Thos. Elyot’s Governour, fol. 204.: “The Jests or Acts of Princes or Captains.”

What little revision Sir Arthur Gorges’ trans- lation of the Sapientia Veterum has undergone at Mr. Singer’s hands, three specimens may suffice to show :

“It is wisely added, that Nemesis rides upon a Hart, because a Hart is a most live/y creature,” &c. P. 314.

Now the original Latin reads Cervus vivaz, and the whole point of the passage turns on the Stag being a long-lived, not on its being a lively animal. Moreover, long-lived” was a proverbial epithet of the Stag with the ancients ; thus Virgil :

Et ramosa Mycon vivacis cornua cervi.” Eeclog. vit. 30.

And Pliny explains this longevity by saying that as age approaches, Stags renew their youth by feeding on serpents.

In the Fable of Proserpine, Lord Bacon says of the golden bough :

This was an only Bough, that grew in a large, dark Grove, not from a Tree of its own, but, like the Misletoe, (sed Visci instar), from another.” Dr. Shaw’s edit.

The original Latin, Visci instar, is rendered in Mr. Singer's edition, “like a rope of gum.” !!

Lastly, in the Fable of the Sirens, the concluding sentence thus stands in the original :

Meditationes enim Rerum Divinarum, Voluptatis Sen- sus non tantum potestate, sed etiam suavitate superant.”

For Divine Contemplations exceed the Pleasures of Sense; not only in Power, but also in Sweetness.” —Shaw.

In Mr. Singer's edition it is rendered :

For Divine Meditations do not only in Power subdue all sensual Pleasures; but also far exceed them in Swift- ness [ suavitate!] and Delight.”

doubtless reveal other errors, but the instances I have given may for the present suffice to show that it is not what is much wanted an accurate and scholarly edition of Bacon’s Essays. With regard to such a work I shall make but one suggestion : The editions and versions of these Essays are very

| numerous, and vary much; the most important

and valuable of such notes as are really necessary might be obtained from the collation and com- parison of these, by subjoining a various reading whenever it is more clear, full, or beautiful, than that in the text. Of this I shall give two in- stances, not the best that might be given, but the first that occur to me :

Praise is the Reflection of Virtue; and, like Light, participates of the reflecting Body. If it proceeds from the Head, it is commonly false; and rather attends the Vain than the Virtuous: for the Vulgar have no feeling of many eminent Virtues.”— Of Praise, Dr. Shaw’s edit.

Compare the above with the passage and note in Mr. Singer's book, p. 196. °

Again, if a note were required at all on the word “nice,” at p. 114., which is very question- able, the reading given in Shaw's edit. (“The Spartans were reserved and difficult in receiving Foreigners among them,” &c.), would be far pre- ferable to the explanation given in Mr. Singer's note. EIRIonnAcn.

(To be continued.)

BULLS OF IRISH ROMAN CATHOLIC BIsHoPs, 1759— 1760. I, Jacobo IIl., Magne Brittaniea Regi, jura nominationis ad Episcopales Sedes Catholicas preservat. Carissimo in Christo Filio Nostro Jacobo Mag. Britt. Regi Ill. Cremens Para XIII. Carissime in Christo Fili Salutem, et Apostolicam Bene- dictionem.

Cum Nos hodie per alias Nostras in simili forma Brevis expeditas literas, quarum tenorem pro plene, et sufficien- ter expresso, ac presentibus inserto habere volumus, Ecclesia Limericen. in Regno tuo Hibernix vacanti, Dilectum Filium Danielem Kerney, cui apud Nos de iis, que ad tantum onus sustinendum necessarix sunt, quali- tatibus, fide digna Testimonia perhibita fuerunt, quemque Nobis Majestas Tua per suas literas ad id nominavit, in Episcopum prefecerimus, et Pastorem, curam, regimen, et administrationem ipsius Ecclesia Limericen. ei ip Spi- ritualibus, et temporalibus committendo; Verum in literis hujusmodi nallam nominationis a Te facta, et ad Te per- tinentis mentionem fieri censuerimus, iis ita suadentibus rationibus, quas pro spectata prudentia Tua Te facile as- secuturam esse non ambigimus, idque Tibi nullo modo officere summopere cupiamus. Idcirco per presentes ex- presse declaramus, mentem Nostram fuisse, et esse, ut ex tali omissione, quam presentis temporis conditio postula- bat, nullam Tibi, Tuisque juribus nominandi detrimen- tum illatum fuerit, vel sit, sed ea omnia ita salva, illesa, ac preservata intelligantur, proinde ac si in ejusdem literis expressa Tux Nominationis hujusmodi mentio facta fu-

A closer examination of Mr. Singer’s book would | isset. Quod dum eo animo Tibi significamus, ut novum

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in hoc accipias argumentum illius intime, ac prorsus Pa- ternz, qua Te in Domino complectimur, et semper am- lexi fuimus, Charitatis. Apostolicam Benedictionem fujestati Tuz amantissime impertimur. Datum Rome apud S. Mariam Majorem, sub Annulo Piscatoris, die xxx. Novembris mpccutx., Pontificatus Nostri Anno Secundo.”

Il.

Jacobo ITT., Magne Brittannia Regi significat provi- sionem Ecclesia Alladen. factam favore nominati a Ma- jestate Sua, rationesque exprimit cur de nominatione ipsa mentio minime occurrat in Literis expeditis favore provisi,

Carissimo, etc.

“Cremens Papa XIII.

« Clarissime, etc.

«Cum Ecclesiw Alladen. Philipp um Philips, Ecclesia Alladen. ut ex hac preteritione,” . . (etc., ut supra).

“Datum Rome, apud S. Mariam Majorem, sub An- nulo Piscatoris, die xxiv. Novembr., mpccix., Pontifi- catus Nostri Anno Tertio.”

The above is taken, verbatim et literatim, from the Bullarium Pontificium Sacre Congregationis | De Propaganda Fide” (Rome, Typis Coll. Ur- bani, Sup. Perm., 1841, tom. iv. pp. 23, 24. 45.). I have not copied the latter brief in extenso, as it | is exactly the same as the other, with the excep- tion of the name of the Bishop and See, and other expressions, above given. ‘There are no other documents of the same kind in the five volumes of | the Bullarium ; and as the matter appeared of an | interesting character, and probably not generally known, it seemed to me worthy of insertion in the pages of “N. & Q.” ‘The subject is undoubtedly deserving of examination, as it shows that the See of Rome consulted, nominally at least, though probably merely pro formd, the representative of the House of Stuart (commonly called The Old Pretender”) in the disposal of the bishoprics of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland. Whether this was done in every case, it is not in my power to say, though it would appear so from the tenor of | these Bulls; and that the rights of King James III. of Great Britain” were not to be considered as compromised by any omission or want of forms on his part, with reference to the vacant Irish Sees. However, I leave this for your numerous learned | correspondents to enlarge upon, if they deem the subject of sufficient importance; and in conclu- sion, I shall merely add a few brief notitia of the | two prelates whose names are mentioned in these Bulls.

Daniel Kerney,” or Kearney, Bishop of Lime- | rick, appointed, as above, by Brief of Nov. 30, 1759, died in the year 1775, having been conse- crated in 1760.

Philip Philips,” or Phillips, Bishop of Killala, | from Nov. 24, 1760, was still there in the year 1776. He was probably the same ecclesiastic who became Archbishop of Tuam about 1780, and died | in 1791. In the meagre lists, however, which are

| pages.

| given of the succession of the Roman Catholic

hierarchy in Ireland, during the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries, Philip Philips, Bishop of Achonry, from 1759 to 1780,” is stated to have been translated to Tuam in the latter year. And

| his predecessor there, Mark Skerrett, had also

been previously Bishop of Achonry; while his successor, Boetius Egan, was previously Bishop of Killalu. There may have been two contemporary Irish prelates of the same name, Philip Philips ; but the matter is exceedingly obscure, as there are no correct lists of these Irish bishops in any work I have ever heard of, though a little research on the subject is surely desirable. Alladen” is, however, undoubtedly the bishopric of Killala, in the county of Mayo, and province of Connaught— Episcopatus Alladensis ; and Limericen” is, of course, the bishopric of Limerick. A. S. A. Hindustan.

POPIANA. Pope, Editions of 1735 and 1736. Your cor-

respondent F, E. (2 S. iv. 446.) raises questions

well worth considering, but which I certainly cannot solve; though i hope to direct attention to some small facts which may aid better judg- ments to conclusions.

Your correspondent tells us that Vol. III.” of Lintot, 1736, was “obviously intended to follow

| Vol. II. of Pope’s Works published in the pre-

ceding year by L. Gilliver.” This I believe to be true; and he might have added that Vol. II. of Gilliver was obviously intended to follow Vol. I. of Lintot. So disjointed a publication of an author's Works seems strange, and deserves in- quiry in N. & Q.”—first as to the fact, and then as to motives.

I have many copies of Pope's Works, all pub- lished between 1735 and 1748, all agreeing in size and character, all in contemporary binding ; some bound in separate volumes, others with the four volumes bound in two—a strange and curious example of inharmonious harmony.

I have two editions of Vol. I.” of The Works of Alexander Pope, which were, as sct forth in the title-page, printed for B. Lintot, 1736.”

I have four copies of Vol. IT. ;” two of which were printed for L. Gilliver, 1735,” as described by your correspondent, and with different title- These are reprints from the quarto of

1735, with some additions. Neither contain The

| Duaciad, and only one announces its speedy pub-

lication. I have also two copies of a separate

volume, called Vol. IT. Part II.,” printed for Dodsley, and sold by T. Cooper, 1738;” which professes to contain all such pieces of the author as were written since the former volumes, and never before published in octavo.” I have also a

copy of Vol. LL.” bound up with Vol. L.” of B,

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Lintot, 1736, which was printed for R. Dodsley, | they together make up the only collected edition and sold by T. Cooper, 1739.” This has bound | of Pope’s Works in 8vo., 1735 or 1736.

up with it a copy of Satires and Epistles” with | Can any of your readers produce a copy of a bastard title-page only. It has a separate pagi- | Vols. I. or III. printed for any booksellers but nation. This copy of “Satires and Epistles” is | the Lintots? or of Vols. II. or IV. printed for apparently imperfect. It does not contain the | the Lintots? I should even then examine it very Epistles,” and there is a break in the pagination | carefully before I could be convinced that it dif- from pp. 28. to 79. But it is proved by the Table | fered in anything beyond the title-page. PP. E. of Contents to the four volumes, of which it forms one, that the volume contains all that it was in- tended to contain—all that was announced in the Table of Contents. So that this seemingly imper- fect copy is perfect according to intention.

I have three copies of Vol. IIL,” all alike, and My contemporaries steal too openly. Mr. Smith has all printed for B. Lintot, 1736.” inserted in Brambletye House whole pages from Defoe’s

Of Vol. IV.” I have two copies, both contain- | Fire and Plague of London. ing The Dunciad (N, of N. & Q.”), and printed * Steal! foh! a fico for the phrase for L. Gilliver and J. Clarke, 1736.” Convey the wise it call!’

We get a little light as to this strange publica- | When I convey an incident or so, I am at as much pains tion of collected Works by referring to those | to avoid detection as if the offence could be indicted at curious papers long since published in N. & Q.” | the Old Bailey.” Walter Scott’s Diary, Oct. 18, 1826. __ (1" S. xi. 377.), the extracts from Woodfall’s The great attention now paid to the MSS. of Account Book; where we find, Dec. 15, 1735, | the old Italian composers has opened the door to Mr. Bernard Lintot” charged for printing the | a curious inquiry, and that is, the mode in which

st volume of Mr. Pope's Works,” &c., title in | Handel made his music. He took eighty-four days red and black,” which correctly describes the first | to make the Saul, twenty-four to make the Israel. volume of The Works of Alexander Pope. There | As far as the knowledge of the public extended, is no charge in Woodfall’s account for printing, he had only written one alla cappella chorus be- neither any reference whatever to a second volume. | fore the production of the Israel. That alla cap- The next entry is Mr. Henry Lintot, April 30, | pella chorus is now known not to be his own 1736.” “Printing the third volume of Pope's | writing. Further, he is known to have disliked Works,” &c., “title red and black,” which as | the school; for of Palestrina, and his contempo- exactly describes Vol. III. of The Works of Alex- | raries, he was accustomed to say, their music is ander Pope, and marks the very difference in the | too stiff;” an expression very likely to come from title-page: Vol. I. being printed for B. Lintot, | the lips of an opera composer of twenty-five years’ and Vol. III. for H. Lintot,—Bernard Lintot | standing. A great part of the Jsrael is alla cap- having died on Feb. 3. 1736. pella writing. The question is, Did Handel com-

It farther appears from Woodfall's Account | pose it or not ?”

Book, that, from 1735 to 1741, he was employed On Feb. 17, 1813, Mr. White sold a Serenata, in printing one or other of Pope’s Works for B. | by Stradella, for three voices. The book belonged Lintot, H. Lintot, R. Dodsley, L. Gilliver § Co., | to the Rev. John Parker, rector of St. George, and Alexander Pope, Esq.” Botolph Lane. Mr. Bartleman bought this book

So far as relates to what Woodfall calls Epistles | for 5s.6d. At Bartleman’s sale, on Feb. 24, 1822, of Horace, the account runs thus :—On May 12, | a Mr. Booth bought this book for one shilling. It 1737, R. Dodsley is charged for “printing the | came into the hands of Mr. Lonsdale, who sold it First Epistle of the Second Book of Horace, imi- | toM.Schelcher. The whole of this book Handel tated, folio,”—that is the first edition of the Epistle | has used up in the first Act of the Zsrael in Egypt. to Augustus, to which Dodsley thought it politic to | At Bartleman’s sale was also sold Padre Uria's Te affix the name of Cooper as publisher. On June | Deum, bought by Mr. Greatorex, and sold again 15, 1737, Lawton Gilliver § Co.” are charged | at his sale to Mr. V. Novello for five shillings. for printing Epistles of Horace, but it is noted in | The whole of this book Handel has used up in his margin that the account charged to Gilliver & Co. | Dettingen Te Deum, his Saul, and the Israel. Let was “paid by Mr. Pope.” On Feb. 10, 1732, | the reader turn to the chorus “O fatal conse- Alexander Pope is himself charged for printing | quence of rage,” in the Saul, and he will see the Epistles of Horace.” work of two minds: one which could master the

I cannot doubt that these separate publications, | alla cappella, and the other which could not. The which made up The Works of A. Pope, in 1735 and | masterly counterpoint in that chorus is by Uria. 1736, originated in the several copyright interests At Mr. George Gwilt’s sale was sold a Magni- of the publishers ; and though these volumes are | ficat for eight voices alla cappella, which is inscribed now usually considered and sold as “odd volumes,” | Magnificat del R‘ Dy” (or, as some think, Sig")

MUSICAL NOTES, NO. Il.——- HANDEL AS A CONVEYANCER. -

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Erba. The whole of this book Handel has used up in the second part of the Zsrael and elsewhere. In the British Museum is a book, left by the late Mr. Groombridge to that institution, the whole of which Handel has used up for the Judas Mac- cabeus,” and elsewhere. The March is verbatim.

On last Friday, at the rooms of Messrs. Put- tick & Simpson, a MS. Gloria, in Handel's own hand, was sold for a large sum, written for eight voices and two orchestras. It is dated July 13, 1707, not alla cappella, and shows he was not then well practised in eight-part writing. There was also sold a trio in his own hand of three move- ments, dated Naples, July 12, 1708. The first and last movements have been published ; but the second movement has not, and in my mind shows Handel was not then well settled in counterpoint, for the subject of the fugue departs from the hey, there being a ratio admitted which creates a new centre, and destroys the one he had started with.

Of the Israel in Egypt, I contend the first chorus bears internal evidence of two handwrit- ings: Handel's, and that of another. The second is his own organ fugue. The third is by Stradella. The fourth, made up of Stradella. The fifth, Handel's, The sixth, his own organ fugue. The seventh, founded on Stradella. The eighth by John Casper Kerl. The ninth, He led them through, from the Dixit Dominus ; and But the waters over- whelmed them, from the Il Trionfo del Tempo ; and the last founded on Stradella. Thus far the First Act. It would not take Handel many days to com- pose an oratorio after this fashion.

Of the Second Act: The horse and his rider is founded on a fugue with four subjects, by Krieger. The Lord is my strength, Erba; He is my God, Erba; JI will exalt him, evidently Italian writing, and not by Handel; The Lord

ts a man of war, Erba; The depths have covered | »* . ° | ruins of an old fort. At Ardrigh, same Barony, is

them, partly Erba, and in Handel's new style, of which Mattheson speaks; Thy right hand, Erba; And the greatness, Handel's new style ; sentest forth thy wrath, Erba; And with the blast, Erba, and Handel's new style; The earth swal- lowed, Erba; The people shail hear, Handel's new style, the added parts from Stradella.

In the Royal Library is the Magnificat in question in the handwriting of Handel, not per- fect ; no signature, no date, and full of alterations. I have not seen this MS. All his other choral MSS. in the Royal Library, written at Rome and Naples in 1707 and 1708, are clear and in his usual style, so that the style and condition of this MS. must be taken into consideration. The chorus He spake the word is by Stradella; the chorus Egypt was glad is by Kerl. If a man would take two choruses bodily, he would take a dozen, There are those who say Handel could write alla cappella, and that the Magnificat is his composition, I have opened the question, and

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There is ample room for

reserve my argument. H. J. Gauntierr.

inquiry. 8. Powys Place.

SALE OF AN ESTATE OF KING JAMES II,

The document, of which the following is a de- scription, came into my possession lately through the kindness of a legal friend :

The Estate of the late King James in the County of Kildare, consisting of the Farms and Lands following, will be Expos’d to Sale at Chichester House, Dublin, on Thurs- day the 15** Day of April, 1703, by Cant [ auction] to the best Bidder.”

The document is apparently a rental containing the various denominations, number of acres, yearly rent, dated 1702; real value per annum, upset price, tenants’ names, quality of land, and estate or interest allowed. There are five denomina- tions in Naas Barony, seven in Kilka and Moon Barony, four in Ophaly Barony, nine in Claine Barony, five in Carbury Barony, one in Connel Barony, and two in Ikeathy and Oughterany Ba- rony. The number of acres contained in the whole is 8359 a. Or. 36 p.; the yearly rent amounted to 15192. 10s.; the real value to 1535/.; the upset price to 26,4527. 10s. The number of tenants was eighteen, and, with the exception of Theobald Bourke,” their names are decidedly English ; one only, “‘ Jacob Peppard,” is described as Esquire.” Each lot generally contained one good stone house,” slated or thatched, and sundry cabbins,” which are generally described as being well fired and watered.” The half of Bally Doolin, in Carbury Barony, is the only place described as wood.” Newland, in Naas Barony, parish of Killisher, possessed an old castle. On the lands of Bally Cargy, Barony of Kilka and Moon, are the

| an “eel weir in which salmon are caught in the

Thou |

season,” in the parish of Timahoe. Claine Barony is an old church and castle in the parish of Carric. Carbury Barony is an old strong castle of Kinne- fad” out of repair. Various mills, plantations of ash trees, orchards, and gardens are mentioned in other parts of the estate. No. 31. Whitestown and Boycetown” will be “sold for ready money Eng- lish.” Henry Colly of Coonagh, Carbury Barony, is allowed a “yearly chiefry of 5s. and a barrel

| of oats.” And Narraghbegg, Ballincargy, Tallants-

town, Rathscaldin, and Ardrigh, Barony of Kilka and Moon, “allowed to John, Earl of Kildare, suit and service at the Mannor Court of Kilka, and a yearly chiefry of 27. 13s. 8d." Who had the benefit of this large estate from 1690 or 1691 u to 1703 ? and for whose benefit was it then sold

Francis Rosert Dayiss,

Moyglas Mawr.

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A NOTE TO HALLIWELL's NURSERY RNYMES.”

Among many curious old songs preserved in this exceedingly popular and amusing work, —in which we find much of what may be termed “Nursery Literature,” and not a little research on the part of its indefatigable compiler,—in the department of the work devoted to Relics,” at p. 315., are found the following lines :

Jacky, come give me thy fiddle, If ever thou mean to thrive ; Nay, I'll not give my fiddle © any man alive. “If I should give my fiddle, They'll think that I’m gone mad, For many a joyful day My fiddle and I have had.”

When reading the above stanzas to a person of my acquaintance, well versed in the ancient bal- lad literature of the district in which she was born and brought up, the following verses were forcibly recalled to her memory as bearing on the subject of Jacky and his fiddle, immortalised in the Nursery Rhymes, and which I think it not amiss to quote. I know not if the verses in the Rhymes be the oldest of the two, but feel certain that Mr. Halliwell, if he should happen to fall in with this communication, will be able to inform me.

0’ Willie you'll sell youre fiddle, And buy some other thing: O’ Willie you'll sell youre fiddle, And buy some cradle or string. If I would sell my fiddle, The folk wid think 1 war mad; For monna a canty nicht My fiddle and i hae had. Chorus. “O’ rattlin roarin Willie, Yer ae fu’ welcome to me: O’ rattlin roarin Willie, Yer ae fu’ welcome to me. Yer ae fu’ welcome to me, For a’ the ill they’ve said; For monna a canty nicht My Willie and I hae had. Foul fa’ their Kirks and their Sessions, The’re ae sae fond o’ mischief, They'll ca’ me into their Sessions, They'll ca’ me warse than a theif, They'll ca’ me warse than a theif, And they’ll make me curse an’ ban, They'll brag me ae with their laws, But D——1 brake my legs gin i'll gang. * ©’ rattlin roarin,” &c.

Mr. Halliwell, as a rare searcher into such mat- ters, cannot but feel interested in lines which bear such a strong resemblance to the Nursery Rhyme ; and I make the gentleman, and others who may have a turn for selections of the kind, heartily welcome to the words in which that gay Lothario Willie indulges on being pressed to part with his fiddle. K.

Arbroath.

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| river was completely frozen across in 1775.

Minor Notes.

Bolton Street, Piccadilly. —1 find in Cunning- ham’s Hand-Book the following quotation from Smith’s*Antiquarian Ramble :

Among the advertisements of sales by Auction in the original edition of The Spectator, the mansion of Streater, junior, is advertised as his country house, being near Bolton- row in Piccadilly; his town residence was in Gerrard- street, Soho.”

This must, I think, be a mistake ; and from the character of the things to be sold, I have little doubt that Streater had removed from Gerrard Street to Bolton Street. Be that as it may, the house is certainly not advertised as his country house. I quote so much as may be necessary in proof, from the original edition of No. 185. of The Spectator, published October 2, 1711:

The extraordinary Choice Collection (of Mr. Streeter, late Serjeant Painter), consisting of models, figures, . . will be sold by Auction on the 5 Ins*, at 3 in the after- noon, at his late dwelling house next Bolton-street in

Hide-Park-Road,” &c. B. 8S. P.

Clare's Vanities of Life.” —Mr. Bell, in his Ancient Poems, Ballads, and Songs of the Peasantry of England, p. 15., publishes under the foregoing title, nineteen stanzas originally transmitted by John Clare the Northamptonshire peasant poet to James Montgomery, and by the latter printed in the Sheffield Iris, with some remarks on their cha- racter. As Mr. Bell states, they were professedly copied from “the fly-leaves of an old book,” though he is mistaken in saying they were accom- panied by the original manuscript.” The object of this Note is merely to state what I thought had become pretty generally known—that the stanzas, which exhibit an ingenious imitation of the style of some of the moral poets of the seventeenth century, were written by Clare himself. (See Memoirs of Montgomery by Holland and Everett, vol. iv., pp. 96.175.) It will there be seen that various compositions from the same source ap- peared in different publications, under the names of popular old authors. How far the success with which the names of Harrington and Davies, and Marvel and Davenant, are made responsible for these forgeries is a merit, or otherwise, can hardly be considered an open question. J. H.

Freezing of Rivers in Italy. The Paris corre- spondent of the Morning Herald for February 18, has the fullowing statement :

“While we Parisians are enjoying the mild and genial temperature of spring, Italy is a prey to all the horrors of winter. The Po has been frozen over to such an extent that men and animals have been able to cross it without danger, which is the first time it has been so since the commencement of the present century. Some old persons remember having witnessed a similar circumstance in 1788, and also having heard their fathers say that the

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portion of its course the Po has been frozen over. According to Livy, v. 13., the navigation of the Tiber was interrupted by the severe cold of the winter of the year400B.c. Zonaras, viii.6., likewise states that the Tiber was frozen to a great depth in the year 270 n.c. Gibbon (Mise. Works, vol. iii. p. 245. 4to) appears to state that the Tiber was frozen in the year 1709, though his language is not free from ambiguity. Is there any certain account of the Tiber having been frozen in modern times ?

It may be remarked that snow has fallen and covered the ground at Malta during the last win- ter, an event which does not occur above two or three times in a century. L.

Edie Ochiltree. Sir Walter Scott, in giving some account of Andrew Gemmells, the prototype of Edie, who is one of the most interesting of the creations of that author’s genius, says, in conclu- sion, in his preface to the Antiquary,

When or where this laudator temporis acti closed his wanderings the author never heard with certainty; but most probably, as Burns says,

‘He died a cadger pawny’s death, At some dike side.’

In the obituary of the London Chronicle for April 1—3, 1794, I find this announcement

Died lately at Roxburgh, Newton, Andrew Gammels,

* aged 105. He was a dragoon in Queen Anne’s wars; and

travelled Scotland 49 years as a beggar.”

Since Edie was deemed of consequence enough to have his death announced in a London journal along with the demises of the aristocracy, the next entry but one being

“On the 25th ult. died at Dublin the Right Hon. Her- cules Langford Rowley, Knight of the Shire for the County of Meath,”

we may hope that his wanderings were not per- mitted to close in such misery and neglect as was conjectured by him who has given to the name a world-wide celebrity. Montgomery D. Nixon.

Dublin.

The Word Surcrew.”—It is gratifying to think that there is some prospect of a diction»ry

of our noble language, based on correct principles | of etymology. Iam reminded of the want of such | a work by having referred to Noah Webster's |

Dictionary for information about the obsolete word surcrew. It occurs in a letter of Sir Henry Wotton, where he is speaking of a fever return- ing with a surcrew of those splenetick vapours that are called hypochondriacal.” Webster's cri- ticism is surcrew, additional crew or collection!”

Can there be a doubt but that it is the same word

as the French surcroit, increase or addition, which, with its cognate verb surcroitre, is the Latin su- per-crescere ? VaRRo.

Oxford,

Title-pages. Collectors of old and rare books, and the lovers of literature generally, are often annoyed and disappointed at the loss of the title- page of a favourite or coveted volume. To ob- viate this in some degree, I would suggest that a duplicate title should be inserted in the middle of the work, which would doubtless often remain after the first had been mutilated or totally lost. | I know not if this suggestion has been made be- fore, and it would perhaps be of little advantage to the present age, but future generations would have the benefit of it; and if “N. & Q.” should be the means of carrying it into effect, it would add another feature to its usefulness. I might con- clude with Southey

“Go little thought from this my solitude, I cast thee on the waters, go thy ways; And if, as I believé, thy vein be good, The world will find thee after many days.” M. E. Berry.

Monthly Preceptor.” If, as is said, Southey’s Life of Nelson, like the lyre of Tyrtzus, wakened a military spirit in many a future naval hero, -so his Memoirs of Henry Kirke White influenced in a literary direction the minds of not a few some fifty yearsago. In the latter work Southey says,

“There was at this time a magazine in publication, called the Monthly Preceptor, which proposed prize- themes for boys and girls to write upon;” and after condemning the plan generally, adds, “To Henry, how- ever, the opportunity of distinguishing himself, even in the Juvenile Librury, was useful; if he bad acted with a man’s foresight he could not have done more wisely than by aiming at every distinction within his little sphere.’”

Now, the early volumes of this work, having | been purchased by one of my boys, came lately under my notice, and I amused myself with exa- mining who were Henry's competitors, and found | more than one or two who had in early youth felt a desire for “fame,” “that last infirmity of noble minds ;” and who, in various ways in after life, did not disappoint the hopes raised by their ju- venile efforts. Others may have distinguished themselves in their riper years, but I subjoin a few well-known names: —H. Leigh Hunt, Josiah Conder, W. J. Fox, Ashurst Turner Gil- bert, Nassau W. Senior, Henry Walter, Isaac Taylor, Daniel Harvey, Edward Parry, Thos. Quincey (De Quincey ?), Jane ‘Taylor, Anne | Maria Williams, Cohen, and Goldsmids, pupils of Dr. Montucci. Ss. 8. S.

The same Old Two-and- Sixpence.” When a | person has been absent from his friends for some considerable time, and is thought to be unchanged when they meet again, it is common for them to say, You are the same old two-and-sixpence.” Sometimes he says of himself, “I am the same old | two-and-sixpence.” The expression is most com- monly applied to the manners, habits, and modes

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of thought and speech; seldom, if ever, to the | was offered to him was the same old two-and-siz-

bodily appearance.

It is probable that this expression is derived from a story related by Conrad Weiser, a famous trader amongst the American Indians, in the last century. He states that an Indian who arrived in Albany one Sunday morning called upon a trader of his acquaintance at once to sell his furs. He

| pence.

found the trader on the point of setting out for |

church, who told him that he could only give him two-and-sixpence a pound for his skins, but that, as this was their day of rest, they must postpone trading until the next day. The Indian had to acquiesce, and accepted an invitation to accom- pany his friend to church, where, he was told, the white people went once a-week fo learn good things. The Indian got along very comfortably until the time for the sermoncame. He then fancied that the clergyman looked at him angrily, and spoke of him to the congregation. Upon which he retired, and smoked his pipe upon the steps until the meeting broke up. He then spoke to other traders of his acquaintance, but the only price that

Whence he concluded that the white men attended church, not to learn good things, as was pretended, but to learn how to cheat Indians in the price of beaver-skins. Unepa.

Queries. REVETT ARMS.

Though it is not an uncommon thing to find the same family using two or more different crests, instances of coat-armour entirely different in character, yet borne by the same person, and in conjunction with the same crest, are, I believe, somewhat rare. One example at least of such a custom has received the highest heraldic sanction, for the following pedigree has been extracted from three MSS. of Heralds’ Visitations in the Bodleian and Queen’s College Library, Oxford ; viz. Camden's, in 1619, for Cambridgeshire, and Harvey's, in 1561, for Suffolk :

Thos. Ryvett, of Stowmarket, Esq.—Jane, daughter of Thos. Raven, Esq.

Mirabell-=jWm. Burd,

| James—Dorothy, of London,

| daughter

f Alice, daughter—Sir Thos.—Griselda, youngest Wm. John, of Sir

John | Revett, daughter of Wm. Revett.

of John Esq. Cotton, ofLan- | Knt., of | Lord Paget. Soome, wade, Knt. London. Esq. saad A | | | Mirabell. Alice—Thos. Gerard, Esq. Anne—Lord Windsor. Thomas—Catharine, daughter Susan. |

to Wm. Cotton, Esq., of Essex.

Thomas.

In the margin of both copies of the Suffolk Visi- tation are tucked these arms: per pale, argent and sable, on a chevron between three mascles as many martlets, all counterchanged; in the Cam- bridgeshire Visitation, argent, three bars sable, in chief’ as many trivets of the last quartering the former coat and raven, or, on an orb, gules, a raven proper. Another branch of this family was seated at Brandeston Hall, in Suffolk, from the year 1548 to 1809, when the direct male line became extinct, and I believe always bore the second coat, that with the trivets. The same coat is also found upon the monument of James, eldest son of Thos. Ryvett. He was a man of some note in his day, and had the honour of entertaining Queen Elizabeth in her progress through Norfolk and Suffolk in 1578, of which Churchyard gives this description :— “From Sir Thomas Hidson’s (Hen- grave Hall) to Maister Revet’s, where all things were well and in very good order, and meate liberally spent.” He lies buried in the chancel of Battlesden church, with this inscription: Here

. Anne=Sir Henry Clowell, Knt.

| Elizabeth—Sir William Russel, Bt.

Edward.

lyeth James Ryvett, Esquire, and Dorothy his wife. He was Councellor in Lawe, Custos Ro- tulorum, and Justis of Peace, and Quorn in y* County of Suff. He departed this life the 30 of January, a.p. 1587. She the 23rd of August, 1617. “*Paternes of virtue imytable ever

Yet ymytated sild, but equalled never,

An orphane chyld w**out or meed or merit

Onely her hopes their Virtues to inherit,

This to her Parents’ fame so dedicates

That their Renowne might overturne their Fates.

Pia Proles unicaque Filia hoc monumentum posuit

memoriz ergo.’

Indeed, the arms, as given in the Suffolk Visita- tion, appear to have been seldom or never used by any Suffolk branch of the family. I have seen the other coat in stained glass of the seventeenth century at Preston church, on the roof of Parham church, on monuments at Bildeston, Great Saxham, and Stoke by Nayland: all in that county, The monument in the last-mentioned church is a very

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large and costly erection, in memory of Anne, daughter of Sir Thos. Revett. I quote part of the inscription as affording an additional instance of the curious custom which once prevailed of giving the same name to two children of the same family :

“Uxor nobiliss. Baron Henrici diii Windesor, cujus et vidua ad extremum usque spiritum intemerata remansit, et

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| These registers would be invaluable to American

genealogists. Pownatan.

Boston.

MS. of Eulogium, Eulogium Historiarum.— Can any of the numerous readers of your excel-

| lent periodical inform me of the existence of any

ex cujus connubio mater plurimorum liberorum sed reli- |

quit tres tantum superstites, Thomam scilicit jam baro- num utriusque parentis fortunarum et honorum filium et heredem digniss. et duas filias unius nominis Eliza- beth seniorum et Elizab. juniorem.”

I have omitted to mention that the crest is in- variably the same—an arm in armour, grasping a broken sword, F. S. Growse.

Queen’s College, Oxford.

Minor Queries.

Corporation Diary of Reading.—In Man's History of Reading, 1816, 4to., is a circumstantial and graphic account of the reception of King Edward VI. in that town, on his return from his summer progress in the last year of his life (1552). It is stated to have been derived from the Corpo- ration Diary. On making inquiry after this “Corporation Diary,” I am informed that it is not now to be found, and that the present town clerk, who has been in office some fifty years, has never seen it. That such records should stray from their proper custody is an event very much to be deprecated, even though, when in such custody, they are not always so accessible as they should be to the purposes of the historical inquirer. Whether the record in question was in its proper official keeping in Man’s time, I cannot say; perhaps not, as he seems to have had the use of extracts which were not available to Coates, the somewhat earlier historian of the town, but whose work is on the whole a much better book than Man’s. May I ask whether this Corporation Diary is now known to be preserved in any public or private collection of manuscripts ? Joun Goucn Nicuors.

Calypso.” Who is the author of Calypso, a Masque ? cellaneous Poems, consisting of Elegies, Odes, Pas- torals, &c., 8vo., 1778.

Dr. Pechards MSS.—Rev. Dr. Peckard, of

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Magdalen College, Cambridge, in his Memoirs of |

Nicholas Ferrar, p. 165., Cambridge, 1790, states, that he had then in his possession original papers, “-containing accurate registers of the persons sent over [to Virginia by the London Company about 1620], male and female, the county, parish, age,

and occupation of each, with directions for their |

‘proper accommodations.” What disposal was

made of Dr. Peckard’s papers at his death? | Query, is thurlehed some other kind of

MS. of a chronicle called the Eulogium, Eulogium Historiarum, or Eulogium Temporis, written in the latter half of the fourteenth century, appa- rently by a monk of Malmesbury? I am at pre- sent only acquainted with the MSS. of the work in the Libraries of Trinity College, Cambridge, Trinity College, Dublin, Lincoln’s Inn, and the British Museum.

I should be very glad to hear of a MS., nearly contemporary, of the whole or of any portion, however small, of this curious chronicle, which, so far as I know at present, has not been multi- plied to any extent.

The Lincoln’s Inn MS., from wanting the proem (the only part of the work in which its title is mentioned) does not seem to have been identified ; but there is a very full and accurate description of its contents in Mr. Hunter’sexcellent Catalogue of the Historiggl MSS. in the Library of Lincoln's Inn (under No. LXXIII., old numbers), pub- lished in the Appendix to the Report of the Com- missioners on the Public Records for 1837, which renders the identification of any considerable por- tion of the Chronicle a matter of but little diffi- culty to those who have read a perfect manuscript of it. It appears, from a careful examination of an erasure upon which the present title of the work is written (contemporarily) in the oldest MS. at present known, that the name originally

| assigned to the Chronicle, at least by the writer

of that MS., was Compendium, and not Eulogium ;

| and it is not impossible that MSS. may exist

It was published in a volume of Mis- |

| | |

I have, however, as yet P. Q. R.

bearing the older title. not succeeded in finding any. London,

Works of J. Briggs and H. J. Johns. —Can you give me any account of the two following poets and their works ?

1. J. Briggs, editor of the Westmoreland Gazette and the Lonsdale Magazine. A memoir of the author was published along with his poetical re- mains about 1826.

2. H.J. Johns. This author’s poems were pub- lished with a memoir about 1836 or 1837. X.

Thurlehed and Long Oyster.— A Chester roll,

| temp. Edw. IIL., reciting a grant of certain privi-

leges, has the followifg words: Preter wreccam regalem Qual. Sturgon et Thurlehed,” or, as it is written in other documents of a similar nature, Thorlepol. What is the interpretation of the latter word? Whales and sturgeon were royal fishes.

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nearest word approaching to it is ¢ursio or thyrsio, a porpoise. Perhaps some local correspondent may enlighten me.

In a work shortly to be published by the Camden Society, Expenses of Judges of Assize temp. Queen Elizabeth, among items of other fish is one long oyster.” What kind of fish was this ?

Cu. Hoprer.

The Earl of Ross.” —Can any of your readers inform me who is the author of The Earl of Ross, a Tragedy in five acts: Yarmouth, printed by W. Meggy for Baldwin, Cradock, and Joy, London ; and Alex. M*Kay, Edinburgh ; 8vo., 1823. The

slay is dedicated to Elizabeth, Countess of Suther- and, Marchioness of Stafford. X.

Medal of Charles I. and Henrietta Maria. Can you inform me who designed the sbilling- sized silver medal in my possession, of which I enclose photographs taken by Mr. Sutherland of this place ? On one side are profile-busts of King Charles I, and his French bride Henrietta-Maria, with this inscription: “cH .MAG.ET. HEN. MAR. BRIT. REX.ET.REG.” The reverse has a winged Cupid strewing flowers, surmounted by the legend : ‘‘ PYNDIT . AMOR . LILIA . MIXTA . ROSIs . 1625.” The courtly artist makes no allusion to the thorns which beset the nuptial couch of the ill-fated monarch.* Grorcs Harpcast te.

Sunderland.

Robert Parker and Samuel Ward. —I wish to obtain pedigrees of two ministers and authors in much repute with the Puritans in the early part of the seventeenth century, if any are extant ? viz. Robert Parker, author of De Politeia Eccle- siastica ; and Samuel Ward of Ipswich, in Suf- folk, who published a number of Sermons, Brief biographies of both are in Brook's Puritans (vol. ii. pp- 237. 452.). The latter was son of John Ward of Haverhill, whose curious epitaph is preserved in Fuller's Worthies of England, edit. 1840, vol. iii. p. 186. Can any of your correspondents aid me in my research ? T. F.

Edmond Hoyle, Gent.— A biographical notice of this worthy, with a bibliographical account of his works on Whist, Backgammon, Piquet, Quad- rille, §c., is a desideratum which, perhaps, some of the readers of N. & Q.” can supply. Each treatise appears to have been published separately about 1745. Epwarp F. Rimsavttr.

Clergymen administering Communion in White Gloves. Is there any precedent for clergymen using white gloves whilst administering the Hol Communion ? J. S. B.

[* A notice of this medal occurs in our 1* S. xii. 206. There are several varieties of it; and of some more than one pair of dies were used. ]

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Dr. Don Gregorio Cano. There is a silver watch in this city, supposed from the maker's in- scription to have been made in the reign of Queen Anne. It is about six inches in diameter, and two inches from the front of the outer case to the back. The weight with the outer case is 28 oz. 17 dwts. troy; without the outer case, 23} oz. troy. Itis in excellent preservation, and a good time-keeper. Upon the. face, inside the hour numbers, is inscribed “p. GREGORIO CANO;” and that each number may have a letter, the 1 and o are combined, something like a Greek ®, Inside are these inscriptions: “Soi de ¢! Doctor Gregorio Cano,” and Dan' De S* Lea, Watch- maker to her Majesty, London, 2603.”

Was this Spanish physician a resident of Lon- don? Were watches of this size used by physi- cians in the reign of Queen Anne ? Unepa.

Philadelphia.

Ancient Tiles. A few houses in this city and its vicinity, about a hundred years old, have around the fireplaces very curious tiles, supposed to be as old as the houses. Many of them are of a humorous style, very much in the manner of Hogarth. All are well drawn, and are creditable works of art. Some of them have the address of the maker painted in a corner. It is “J. Sadler, Liverpool.” When did he live? Are tiles of his manufacture rare in England ? Unepa.

Philadelphia.

Robert Stearne. Any particulars of the pedi- gree of Robert Stearne of Fullinally, Westmeath, Esq., souldier in Lord Fleetwood’s regiment,” whose will was proved April 16, 1660, and who married Ann Stevens, and had issue, with four daughters, two sons, Robert, who died issueless, and John, who had four daughters, will be most acceptable. Was he of a Norfolk family, whose pedigree was registered in the Visitation of 1563 ? and if so, how did he stand related to them? His brother John was father of Dr. John Stearne, Bishop of Clogher. Dopo.

Ward, Viscounts Bangor. —In Ormerod's Cheshire (vol. iii. p. 358.) is a pedigree of Ward of Capesthorne.” It is there stated that Peter, third son of John Ward of Capesthorne, settled in Ireland in 1637, and was the ancestor of the Vis- counts Bangor. In Archdall’s edition of Lodge's Peerage (vol. vi. p. 68.), a totally different ac- count is given: the statement there is, that Ber- nard Ward, of the Capesthorne family, came to Ireland in 1570. And the names of the earlier members of the family in Lodge, viz. Bernard, Nicholas, Robert, Thomas, Charles, and Arthur, are wholly different from those in Ormerod, viz. John, Randle, Peter, George, Philip,

enry.

Can any of your correspondents tell me how te

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reconcile these two opposing statements? I am also very anxious to obtain information respecting another family of Ward. Bernard Ward of Ban- gor married Mary, sister of Michael Ward, Bishop of Derry. Was this another branch of the same family ? (ey 3

Charm against the Bite of a Mad Dog. —From an old MS. receipt-book of cookery, medicine, | and lucky days and signs, I copy the following, Against the bite of a Mad Dog” :—“ Write | upon an apple, or on fine white bread, O king of | glory, come in Peace Pax, Max, D, inax.

Swallow this three mornings fasting.

Also, Hax, Max, adinax, opera, chudor.’’ Is this charm known? Have the words any | meaning ? A. P. B.

Tweedale Family. About the close of the seventeenth century a Scotch refugee from the | persecutions of the Covenant, of the name —]

i]

Abraham Tweedell, settled in Lancashire. I have applied to the English College of Arms for their armorial bearings without success, and request you to inform me if the family name of Tweedell, ‘Tweedale, or Tweeddale still exists in Scotland, and where I could meet with heraldic information concerning them.

I may remark that Wodrow’s History of the Sufferings of the Church in Scotland mentions a William Tweedale who was brought before the Criminal Court in 1681 for his nonconformist doings in Lanarkshire, and this is probably the district which the above refugee left during the persecutions of the Civil Wars, x a E-

Bunker's Hill. From whence does Bunker’s Hill, where the battle was fought, derive its name? It has been said that it is from some place in Lincolnshire. I want reference to the proof. Gus p. Temp.

Preservation of Salmon.—Now that there is a stir in the right direction regarding the preservation of Salmonide, and a prize is offered by some mem- bers of the University of Oxford for an Essay on the best means to be adopted for their propaga- tion, the following extract from the Gentleman's Magazine for June, 1749, may ve interesting to your piscatorial readers :

“Wednesday 7. Two of the greatest draughts of sal- mon were caught in. the Thames below Richmond that have been kuown some years, one net having 35 large salmon in it, and another 22, which lowered the price of fresh salmon at Billingsgate from 1s. to 6d. per pound.’

Can any of your readers inform me how lately salmon have been taken at or near Richmond ? *

J. B.S. |

Woodhayne.

{* This subject was slightly discussed in our 1st Series. See vol. iv. pp. 87. 141,] P

Bower of Manchester. Can any antiquary or genealogist at Manchester furnish any information from monumental inscriptions, deeds, wills, &c., relating to a family of this name, now called Joddrell? say from 1800 backwards. C. J.

Bacon Family. —What is known of Mary, daughter of Sir Edmund Bacon of Gorbaldiston ? [Garboldisham?] Did she ever marry, and when did she die? Her family, if any. James Coreman.

Drummond of Colquhalzie in Perthshire was out with Prince Charles Edward Stuart in 1745, when he himself was attainted, and his estate confis-

| cated, now in possession of Mr. Hepburn, Can

any of your readers inform me what family he left, and if any daughter or daughters, to whom she or they were married? Also what was his relationship to the Earl of Perth, Viscount Strath- allan, and Lord Oliphant of Gask ? I, M. A.

Kennaquhair.

University Hoods.— Are hoods worn in any of the Scotch Universities? Were hoods ever worn by the graduates of Saint Andrew's; and if so, what were the distinctive characters or colours of those of the various degrees (D.D., L.L.D., M.D., A.M., and A.B.) conferred by that University ?

Auto CLiaTs.

Parish Registers in Ireland. What may be the date of, and where may be found, the carliest extant parish register in Ireland? Many curious particulars are contained in the registers in that part of the United Kingdom. Abusa.

Lists of Army and Navy, and of Members of Clerical, Legal and Medical Professions. —In what year was the first Army and the first Navy List published ? Where may copies of these and of subsequent lists be found? Or where may old Army Lists of not less than a century back be seen? Are lists deposited at the Horse Guards and the Admiralty ; and if so, how could the in- quirer obtain access to them ?

Are there any rolls of the clerical, legal (includ-

| ing solicitors), and medical wag ag. and if so,

when did such commence, where kept, and how to be seen ? J. H.

Seal of William de Grendone. Appended to a grant from Thomas atte Broke, leatherdresser, Citizen of London, and Johanna his wife, to Wil- liam Crafte, Citizen of London, and Johanna his wife, of lands and tenements situate in the parish of St. Stephen, Colmanstrete, dated Ist May, 40 Edward III., John Lovekyn being Mayor of London, John Briklesworth and Thomas de Ir- londe, Sheriffs of London, William de Welde,

| Alderman of the Ward, are two seals of red wax. On the first (oval) is represented Mary Magda- lene holding in her right hand a covered cup:

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legend MARIA MAvDALEI. The second seal bears on a shield across patonce, charged with an escallop: legend—sicgiLLVM WILLELMI DE GRENDONE.

I have been unable to meet with any informa- tion respecting this William de Grendone. He was evidently not a member of the Warwickshire family, as the following arms are assigned to the Grendones of Warwickshire by Dugdaleand others, Argent, two chevrons, gules.”

I would add that the deed is witnessed by John Deynes, William Dykeman*, John atte More, William Hewrede, and Nicholas de Twyford.

J. J. H.

Lee, Kent.

Bones filled with Lead.—In the Gentleman's Magazine for 1748 there is a discovery mentioned as having taken place at Axminster, co. Devon, of many human bones filled with lead. A similar discovery was also made at Newport Pagnell, and a correspondent from Gravesend proposes to solve the mystery by adducing the case of his own town, in the parish church of which bones similarly treated had been found.

He says that the parish-church was burnt to the ground ; that the molten lead from the roof of the church ran in all parts amongst the ruins, and 80 filled the bones. Now this does not seem a very satisfactory solution, and would necessitate the fact of the churches of Axminster and New- port Pagnell having shared the same fate at some distant period. Can any of your readers tell me if this is known to have been the case? J.B.S.

Woodhayne.

When Winds breathe Soft.” Who wrote the words of Webbe’s celebrated glee, When winds breathe soft ?”

Tue Secretary or THe Bansury Gies anp Cuorat Union.

Burton and Graham. Who were Burton and Graham, referred to in the following lines, which in Moore’s Almanac for 1811 head the Calendar for the month of June ?—

God save the King !—and he that wo’n’t say so,

Burton and Graham’s blessings with him go.”

Minor Queries with’ Answers. Rum, its Derivation. —Can you inform me whence the name of this spirit is.derived? In cant phraseology “rum” is synonymous with ex-

ell os ind. A Pr eatlence or superiority of some Kind. Bailey, in | Saxon gleemen. Henry VIII. made the professors of this

his Dictionary, says, Rum-ville” was the cant name of London, and Rum-culley” of a rich

* William bas vitizen and ironmonger, served the office of Sheriff of London in 1368, He was buried in the church of St. Olave’s in the Jewry.

fool. Was the term so applied to the spirit dis- tilled from molasses ? G. W. J.

[Rum, the liquor, formerly spelt, as in French it still is, rhum, has been derived from rheum, or pédma, a flowing, on account of its manufacture from the juice of the sugar- cane. It is scarcely supposable, however, that either pro- ducers, venders, or consumers would ever have offered or called for the article under so very uninviting a name. As rum has of all distilled liquors that are taken (not as physic) the strongest odour, it may possibly owe its name to aroma. This derivation seems at any rate to be sug- gested in Besch. Fr. Dict. (on rhum), where it is re- marked, that “le tafia differe du rhum en ce qu’il n’a pas un aréme aussi prononcé.” To this derivation it may be objected, that rum had its name, and was convivially im- bibed, long before we began to describe the fragrance which attends the drawing of a cork by the term aroma. But the employment of aroma in the sense of vinous fra- grance, at least with reference to spiced wine, is as old as hippocras. We read in Pliny of “aromatites vinum” (odoramentis conditum): and in a mediwyal writer cited by Du Cange, vinum optimum .... a speciebus retinet aromaticitatem et odorem.” Halliwell, on aroint,” seems to think that the word arome once existed in our lan- guage; and it certainly does not appear impossible that, when the first rum trickled from the still, its rich fra- grance may have gained for it the name of arome or aroma, Of aroma we should soon make rum, just as of amoca we have made muck. Rum, the adjective, which is now applied vernacularly to what appears odd or strange, formerly signified, as it still does in the north of our island, superior or excellent. “Rum,” according to Jamieson, is in Lothian anything that is excellent in its kind.” The primary meaning of the word rum, as derived from the Hebrew, is high. Hence, in this sense, the Jews called London Rum- Ville, or Rom- Ville, lite- rally high-town, or the chief of all cities. Rum, as applied to persons, and which originally signified a per- son of importance, has lapsed by use into a term of ridi- cule; just as we now hear it said ironically, he is a very important personage ;” meaning not what he is, but what he considers himself. This is one of the many instances offered by our language, in which terms have become vulgarised by use. ]

Fights in the Seventeenth Century. The fol- lowing passage occurs in the third of Lord Macaulay’s History, containing his celebrated de- scription of the social state of England in 1685. To what custom does it refer ?

Fights compared with which a boxing match is a re- fined and humane spectacle were among the favourite diversions of a large part of the town. Maultitudes as- sembled to see gladiators hack each other to pieces with deadly weapons, and shouted with delight when one of the combatants lost a finger or an eye.” Hist. of Eng- land, vol. i. p. 423.

L.

[This reprehensible divertissement, during the ~—_ of Charles L. and Charles II, was designated Buckler-Pl

but more anciently known as the Sword-Dance, or a combat with swords and bucklers, exhibited by our

art a company by letters patent, wherein the art is en- titled “The Noble Science of Defence.” In the 6th James I., 1609, by a decree of the Star-Chamber, buck- ler-play, bear-baitings, &c. were utterly prohibited. From the reign of Charles II. to that of George I. these prize- combats were mostly exhibited in the bear-gardens of

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the metropolis, viz. at Bankside, Southwark; Hockley- in-the-Hole, Clerkenwell; and Mary-le-Bone Gardens. Hence we find Mrs. Peachum in the Beggar’s Opera thus addressing Filch: You should go to Hockley-in-the- Hole and to Marybone, child, to learn valour.” Pepys appears to have been mightily pleased with these demo- ralising exhibitions. April 12, 1669. By water to the Bear-Garden. Here we saw a prize fight between a soldier and a country fellow, one Warrell, who promised the least in his looks, and performed the most of yalour in his boldness and evenness of mind, and smiles in all he did, that ever I saw; and we were all both deceived and infinitely taken with him. He did soundly beat the sol- dier, and cut him over the head. Thence back to White- Hall, mightily pleased with this sight, and particularly with this fellow, as a most extraordinary man for his temper and evenness in fighting. Home, and after sitting a while, thrumbing upon my viall, and singing, I to bed, and left my wife to do something to a waistcoat and pet- ticoat she is to wear tomorrow.” See also his Diary, May 27, and Sept. 9, 1667. “These exhibitions,” says Strutt, “were outrageous to humanity, and only fitted for the amusement of ferocious minds; it is therefore astonishing that they should have been frequented by females; for, who could imagine that the slicing of the flesh from a man’s cheek, the scarifying of his arms, or laying the calves of his legs upon his heels, were spec- tacles calculated to delight the fair sex, or sufficiently at- tractive to command their presence.” The manner of performing a prize-combat, at the commencement of the last century, is well described, and the practice justly re- probated, in one of the papers of The Spectator (No. 436.) ; but these exhibitions were not without trickery, as ap- pears from another paper (No. 449.) in the same volume. ]

Cocks of Dumbleton, Gloucester. Sir Richard Cocks, Bart., was living in the year 1720. Infor- mation is required of the year of his death, and when the baronetcy became extinct.

L Sir Richard Cocks, the second baronet, died in Octo- ber, 1726; his successor in the title, the Rev. Sir Robert Cocks, died Feb. 9, 1735-6; whose fourth son, Sir Robert Cocks, dying without surviving issue on April 4, 1765, the baronetcy became extinct. ]

Monsieur Oufle. Who is the author of the following work?

L’Histoire des Imaginations extravagantes de Mon- sieur Oufle, causées par la lecture des Livres qui traitent de la Magic, du Grimoire, des Demoniaques, &c, Am- sterdam, 1710,”

It is a novel, written in imitation of Don Quizote, and is profusely illustrated with en- gravings. I believe it is extremely scarce.

R. H. 8.

[This singular work is by Laurent Bordelon, a French |

doctor in divinity, and dramatic author, born at Bourges in 1653. He died at Paris in 1730, thus very truly characterising his numerous works and himself: I know that I am a bad author, but, at all events, I am an honest man.” There is an English translation of this work, entitled A History of the Religious Extravagancies of Monsieur Oufle, &c. 8vo.1711. See some account of the author and his numerous works in Biographie Univer- selle; consult also N. & Q,,” 1* S, ix. 57.]

Battles in England.—In what book shall I find an account of the battles known to have been

fought on English grounds, with description of the localities ? W. D.C. [Haydn’s Dictionary of Dates contains a list of the princi#al memorable battles mentioned in British history. Consult also The Calendar of Victory ; being a Record of British Valour and Conquest by Sea and Land, com- menced by Major Johns, and continued by Lieut. P. H. Nicolas, 8vo. 1855; Howitt’s Visits to Remarkable Places, Old Hails, Battle- Fields, &c., 2 vols. 8vo., 1840-2; and Mac Farlane’s Great Battles of the British Army, 8vo., 1853. For a notice of the early English battles, see the General Index to Bohn’s Six Old English Chronicles. }

Nibelungen Lied.—Can you inform me whether the Nibelungen Lied has been published in Eng- lish, and if so, by whom ? W.S. H.

[A very spirited translation of the Nibelungen Lied, by Mr. Lettsom, was published a few years since by Messrs. Williams and Norgate. ]

Replies.

SEBASTIAN CABOT. (2™ §. v. 1. 154.)

Mr. Pryce has so misunderstood my communi- cation on the above subject, that I must correct his mistake for the sake of your readers. The unpublished MS. of the Rev. Mr. Seyer” was a manuscript note by himself, and not one of the MS. Calendars to which Mr. Prycs refers, and of which his estimate, whether just or not, is there- fore irrelevant. It does not appear from what book Mr. Seyer had copied the marginal note of R. Eden, but simply that it was “a work re- specting Sebastian Cabot,” which does not look like a description of a MS. Calendar history of Bristol. Be the book, however, what it might, nothing turns upon this point, but simply on the authenticity of a note signed R. Eden, who was, or purported to be, a contemporary of Sebastian Cabot, and who stated that Sebastian told him he was born in Bristow.” I have no leisure to hunt up R. Eden, but perhaps some member of the Hakluyt Society may tell us who he was, or something about him.

Assuming that he was a real and reliable per- sonage (and I have not the least suspicion to the contrary) the question stands thus: While Sebas- tian Cabot told Eden that he was born in Bristol, he also (as we learn from Mr. E. Cheney's in- teresting communication to the Philobiblon So- ciety) told Gaspar Contarini, the Venetian Am- bassador at the Court of Charles V., that he was born at Venice, and the inference is inevitable that Sebastian Cabot was a liar. But which was the false and which the true statement must be solved by an analysis of motives. Being capable of lying, in his statement to Contarini he had this inducement to lie: he was at the time endeavour- ing to prove to the Venetian his inglination to

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serve Venice, and he might naturally conclude that his profession that he was a Venetian born would assist him. Was there any equivalent motive for falsification in his statement f R. Eden? For if not, we must prefer the latter. Samuer Lucas.

TENTH WAVE, THE PYTHAGOREAN NUMBERS, AND THE ETYMOLOGY OF TEN,” pvplos, ETC.

(2™¢ S. v, 108.)

O. H. wishes to know “the natural phenome- non” which originated the phrase tenth wave,” as used by Ovid and Burke. No natural pheno- menon had anything to do with it. We constantly say “ten to one,” and use the word decimate” like ten times worse,” conveying the meaning of “large odds,” great slaughter, and considerable aggravation. No doubt that decime or tithes have always been involved in the last category.

Doubtless the number Ten originally indicated amongst all tribes or races that which was im- mense or innumerable —ten being the utmost number they could express by their fingers —the primitive arithmetic.

This is all that can be said in explanation of the exaggerating idea involved in Ten by the Latins. It is a primitive notion retained to the last in the language not apparent in the Greek and seem- ing to show, with other internal evidence, that the Latin was a distinct offset from the Sanscrit, and probably an older dialect than the Greek. This opinion is forcibly upheld by Maury: “ce sont simplement deux sceurs, et si l'on devait leur as- signer un fige different, la langue latine aurait des droits \ étre regardée comme l'ainée.” (La Terre et ' Homme, p. 490., and in his excellent paper in the Indigenous Races of the Earth, p- 38.).

Explanations have been given more curious than satisfactory. Thus Festus says: “nam et ovum decimum majus nascitur, et fluctus decimus fieri maximus dicitur;” for which there is no authority whatever. But the word was also used in a depreciating sense; thus Verrius Flaccus: “Quia vero decimando colligebatur, id ceteris vilius erat; hinc etiam decumanum frumentum dixére pro aceroso, ac oleum decumanum pro minus puro ac proinde viliori.”

Certain it is, however, that the words decem, decies, decumanus, were used by the Latins as epi- thets equivalent to considerable, large, immense. Cicero (De Fin. ii. 8.) quotes Lucilius for the phrase acipensere cum decumano, where decuma- nus, tenth, can only mean huge, immense; in fact, a huge sturgeon, if the sturgeon was the acipenser of the Roman gluttons. Decima was the name of one of the Parcw or Fates of their mythology ; and Festus gays, decumana ova dicuutur et decu-

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mani fluctus, quia sunt magna” (s.h. v.) There were but four gates to the Roman camp, but the chief was nevertheless called Porta decumana; and there were stationed the tenth cohorts of the Le- gions, facts still farther proving the metonomic significance of the word. In fact, all these words were used by metonomy, Jinitum pro infinito (as we say in Rhetoric) for indefinite, large, immense, innu- merable. ‘Thus, Horace—“ decem vitiis instruc- tior,” —and Plautus— “si decem habeas linguas mutum esse adducet,”—which is equivalent to “as deaf as a post,” in the sense applied to “those who can and won't hear.” Finally, we say, Bet- ter fen guilty escape than one innocent man suffer ;” and the Italians used the proverb long before it became a maxim in our jurisprudence, to be ques- tioned by Paley, and upheld by a Blackstone and a Romilly. ‘“ Meglio 2 liberar dieci rei che con- dannar un innocente.” Of course, here ten means any number whatever.

The Greeks used the word pvpios—as we use myriad —in the same sense, for the immense and innumerable. Dr. Maltby (Gradus) gives a note on the subject: —“ The word is derived from pipe, largiter fluo, and is well applied to the flow and succession of numbers. The plural was pro- bably not applied to the definite number 10,000,

| until after the time of Homer; and later Gram- marians make this distinction in accent; svplo:, an immense number ; dpi, 10,000. See Damo.” But mdr and moran signify in Gaelic great and a great number or quantity. (Stewart, Gael.Gramm., quoted by Dr. Pott, Etymol.). There may be a tracing of the word pvplos to the Sanscrit bhuri, much, many: the letters m and b being commut- able articulations; the latter being pronounced by merely separating the lips after pronouncing m.

It is certain that the Zend m sometimes re- places the Sanse. }, e.g. Sanse. brii, to speak, is in Zend mru; and mraud, he spoke, is in Sansc. abraoit (abrét). Bopp, i. 91. The derivation quoted by Dr. Maltby is, of course, a mere fancy in accordance with imaginative philology —uvplos, from ptpw, largiter fluo! It is nevertheless adopted by Dr. Donaldson in his New Cratylus, and the learned Doctor dismisses the difficulty with the following astounding observation: The deriva- tion of the idea of a large number from the sight of water falling in infinite drops, is too obvious to require any remark” (!), p. 273., edit. 1850. Let us try another solution, perhaps not “too ob- vious,” but certainly safer, according to the rules of etymological investigation.

The Sanscrit bahu, much (contracted into bhi in its derivatives bhi-yas, bhi-yishtha, bhi-man, bhi-ri), represents the root uv in pv-plos ; and the word is at once formed,—the length of the v in wv being equivalent to the omitted aspirate h in bhu, and the 6 being changed to m, in accordance with

the usual change in the cognate idioms. Nay, it

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is certain that the words much, more, mehr, yeitwv, major, &c. belong to the same etymon. Doubt-

Cicero says: “venio ad epistolas tuas quas ego sexcentas uno tempore accepi” (Att. 7. 2.); and

less yvplos is a secondary formation, perhaps of | Plautus has, “suspirabo plus sexcenties in die,”

the comparative degree of bht, namely bhi-yas, more,—the idea involved in the word being, as it were, “more and more;” as we say in English, speaking indefinitely. We know that the com- parative ending -iyas in Sanse. (nom. -iydns) has, through the elision of the nasal and the common change of s into 7, become in Latin io-r. All the elements of yupios may thus be clearly traced ac- cording to strict etymology. Valeat quantum if I state that the Gipsy word for a multitude is beh-yr.

Besides, if the word vpfos be the representative of the comparative degree bhi-yas, it is only in accordance with the known fact that these com- parative affixes -yas and -yishtha (Greek wy and

iros) did not often imply comparison,—but simply |

excess,—the distinct recognition of comparison

being a later inference, as results from the fact |

that forms ending in comparative affixes are used in Sanscrit, especially in the Vedas, frequently in the sense of excess, whilst, on the other hand, it is not a rare occurrence that the superlative for- mations in Sanscrit are actually used in the sense of the comparative, as in the proverb: dhinyfnam samgraha uttama sarvasamgrahit “a hoard of grain is best (=better) than every hoard ;” which reminds us of the Spanish proverb, Better is a full belly than a fine coat.” And if the Sanscrit says best than” it is surely not worse than the expression constantly heard from our educated lips, “the best of the two.”

The uéywros of the Greek is the Zend ma-zista, Sanse. bhi-yishtha; and where else can we find the German meist, our English most, and the Datin maximus? And is not the Celtic mwyaf (mooyiiv), otherwise given maighis, precisely the same word ?

This Celtic word maighis is noteworthy as hav-

- ing been mistaken for the etymon of magnus and

héyas by our first comparative etymologist, Eugene Aram. With the knowledge of Sanscrit his won-

derful sagacity would have left, perhaps, little to |

be desired. Alas, that such an exalted intellect should have missed his way, to be immortalised by the hangman and the novelist! (See his admir- able Essay towards a Lexicon upon an entirely New Plan.)

The Greeks also applied the number three to express a mighty wave —picvwa was their fluctus decumanus ofés ce xewdv Kal Kaxav 7; (Prom. 1014.) Indeed rps was the exponent of their exaggeration variously combined; for in- stance, tprrayvoros, widely stretched, valdé extensus.

TPLKUMIG.

The Lati , 7 : Latins also applied sexcenti and sexcenties

in their exaggerations like our hundred and

thousand perhaps from the fact that the Roman |

cohorts consisted originally of six hundred men. (Cf. Niebuhr, Rim. Gesch., Part I., note 568.) | - |

| (Mem. 5. 4.). | Ovid used the word decimus in his II. Metam. 10.: “Vastiis insurgens decime ruit impetus unde.” And other poets have indulged in the figure : Lucan, Lucretius, Valerius Flaccus, Si- lius Italicus, and Gregory of Nazianzen. The annotator of the Delphin Ovid remarks: Dena- rium quippe numerum volebant esse perfectissi- mum, ut qui constet ex uno, duobus, tribus et quatuor. Undead numerum denarium progressi, redimus ad unitatem.”

It is, I suppose, well known that Pythagoras and his followers gave a very serious moral and theological import to the numbers. Each had its meaning ; and Ten was considered the representa- tive of all the wonders of the universe. To say that one thing surpassed another by far, the Py- | thagoreans said that it was ten times greater, ten times more admirable. To express the simple ex- cellence of a thing, they said it had ten degrees of beauty. This number was the symbol of peace, good-will, and friendship; and they gave as a reason the “natural phenomenon,’ that when | two persons join friendship, they join hands to-

gether, making up ten fingers. The number Turee has always been in great vogue: it was | the perfect harmony ;” indeed the history of this

number would be a curious compilation. Most nations attach some sacred idea to it. If it occu- pied a high position amongst the speakers of Sanscrit, it also means something amongst the jabbering Ashantees of Africa where, however, it assumes the form of 3333—this being their sacred number. It is, therefore, the number of the king’s wives or concubines! But it must be remembered that the king gives away women just as his royal cousins in Europe distribute orders and decorations. Four, also, was in great vene- ration ; but Seven was most in vogue, especially amongst the Hebrews, concerning which the Rev. Rich. Clgrke has written a learned treatise Es- | say on the Number Seven. It was adopted by the physicians for their climacteric year. Hence, pro- bably, the common notion that every individual is thoroughly renewed every seven years, for which there is no physiological ground whatever. The probability is that we are thoroughly renewed much oftener in certain parts of the organism | (though certainly not in all), according to wear and tear” and the formative forces of the system, | which vary with disease, and age especially. Fra Paolo, in his Hist. of the Council of Trent, ridi- cules all the supposed advantages of number Seven. Our common prejudice against number Thir- teen for dinner-parties is much better founded in fact. ‘The rate of mortality varies with the ages

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of individuals. Now, of thirteen individuals of | pear in the following instances: pas'u, Lat. pecu-s,

different ages, anywhere assembled, there is always a probability that one, at least, will die during the

Germ, Vie-h ; as’wa, Lat, equ-us ; as'u, Gr. dus ; nas’, Lat, nec-are; vis’, Lat. vic-us: s'wan, Lat.

year. Of course the same is true of twelve, —only | can-is ; vas’, Lat. vace-a; s'fir-a, Gr. xipi-os ; s’iras, the probability is diminished, and so on of every |

number: but by avoiding thirteen at dinner, or anywhere else, it is clear that we do not avoid the claim of King Death, according to his known rules and regulations. If we could permit ourselves merely to jot down the names of thirteen of our friends at random, the result would probably en- sue. I say probably,—for that is all which the reason involves. Whatever we may now think of

the mystic import of the numbers as contradistin- |

guished from the stern facts which they are made to unfold, and to impress upon us in all the rela- tions of life, one fact is evident,—amongst the moderns there is no doubt about the preference to number One.

Much information on the mystical import of the numbers will be found in Cudworth's Intellectual System, and in Thom. Taylor’s Theoretic Arith- metic ; but the subject is very far from being ex- hausted even by the latter, although the greater part of his book is devoted to this curious, but perhaps unprofitable investigation.

Very odd notions will be found in the etymolo- gical dictionaries as to the derivation of the Greek 8éxa, the German zehn, and the English ten. Al- though 3¢xa must have been the name of the number long before men began to reason upon numbers, we are gravely told that it was so called because it contains all the other numbers—és dexruch warrav 40.0uav—in fact, from 5¢éxoua:. The German zehn, we are told by Adelung, was probably derived from zehen, the toes, their number being ten. Our English ten I have also heard derived from the same incomprehensible source ten, quasi, toen / Other derivations will be found quoted in Rich- ardson’s Dictionary, all equally absurd, excepting that advanced by ‘Tooke, which certainly is ra- tional and philosophical. He says that as ten is properly the collection of all the fingers, tyn, ten is the past part. of the A.-S. verb, tyn-an, tg enclose, to tyne. “Se non é vero é ben trovato”—on account of its ingenuity Tooke’s etymology deserved to be true; but 7'en has a much more remote ances- try than the Dano-French dialect which is called Anglo-Saxon.

Like a multitude of words in all |

the languages of Europe, it is Sanscritic; and |

considering the thousands of years during which, like a beutihen, the word has been rubbed through the vocal organ of the Indo-European nations, its integrity has been wonderfully preserved, and it is still capable of speaking for itself and its remote pedigree.

The Sanscrit for ten is das'an—written with the palatal s—peculiar to the Sanscrit, which, in Greek, Latin, and the other cognate idioms, in- variably passes into a guttural sound, as will ap-

Gr. xépas ; s'ri, Lat. Cer-es. Thus das’an became in Latin decem, in Greek 3éxa. In the idiom of our Indian race, the Gipsies, it is desch, des; in Hindiistani das, dah; but in Bengalee, the nearest idiom to the Sanscrit, it is dash, das-hak. In Sclavonic it is desyaty, and in modern Russian desyat.

Amongst others of the same family of languages, we find deszim#, deszimt’s, deszimtis, des, dessim- ton, decet, Irish déagh, deich, and the Gothic taihun. We now see that the d has been turned into ¢, the two letters only differing by the slightest possible incurvation of the tongue against the front of the mouth. In the German zehen or zehn, we find not only a stronger representative of the Sanscrit d, but also the guttural represent- ative of the Sanscrit s’ reproduced. In a similar manner the Sanscrit dis’, to show, Greek deuvuu, Latin dicere, docere, becomes in German zeigen, the Gothic being tiehan; and das’, fo bite, becomes Gothic tahjdn, Greek Saxvew, German zahnen, to tooth.

As what we call Gothic is merely that which relates to the Jutes, Getes, Gutes, Reston com- prehending all that should more properly be called Scandinavian referring to the Cimbric Chersonesus or Jutland (Camden, Brit.) we are prepared to find the word in Swedish tio, Dutch tien, Danish ti (pron. dee), Anglo-Sax.—our Scan- dinavian —tyn, tien, ten. Some of the older forms of the Germanic language had zehan, zin, cin, and tain. To show how the z changed into ¢ in the Scandinavian branch of the great Indo-European family, a few words will suffice. German zahl, Eng. tale, i. e. number. Of this word fale a dif- ferent etymology is given in the Dictionaries, but I submit that zail is the same word, and the ori- ginal representative in German: ziihlen, ¢o tell, 1, e. to number or count; zahn, tooth; zehe, toe ; zapfen, to tap; zahm, tame. The same change of z to ¢ occurs in the Danish, Dutch, &c.

Thus to the Sanscrit must our future etymolo- gists appeal for the history of the fundamental words of the language, —a process infinitely more valuable and interesting than elucidatory quota- tions from the books of old authors, however valuable these may be for showing the change of meanings. The Philological Society promised a new English Dictionary at its last sitting. Suc- cess to the undertaking!

I may add that the same fact results with regard to all the numbers; and with regard to Ten, as well as the others, excepting, perhaps, the first three, there is nothing whatever to show that the sounds were the result of any mental process con- necting them with other significations. The names

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of the numbers seem to belong to that class of words the original suggestion of which is utterly beyond our explanation,—a subject full of in- terest, but on which it would be out of place here to enlarge. AnpREW STEINMETZ.

Replies ta Minor Queries.

What is a Tye? (1" S. iii. 263. 340. 469.; v. 356. 395.) —In the First Series I asked this ques- tion, but it met with no satisfactory reply. In the Gentleman's Magazine, Feb, 1858, is an en- graving of a tieing post at St. Albans, supposed to represent the post to which and the cords with which Christ was bound. Were such posts erected at cross roads? or were posts with serpents Druid- ical emblems of wisdom, placed at cross roads, and converted into the Christian emblem of the post and cords. St. Eloy in his Sermon, quoted in Maitland’s Dark Ages, says, “let no Christian place lights at the temple, or at fountains, or at trees, or at places where cross roads meet.”

And again St. Eloy says, do not make devilish amulets at trees, or fountains, or cross roads.”

King Alfred is said to have hung golden braces at cross roads, to show the security of property under his rule.

Were tieing posts the original stocks, or whip- ping posts? Will no one tell me what was a tye? A. Hotr Wuire.

Seventeen Guns (2 S. v. 70.)—If Mr. Luoyp will turn to p. 33. of The Queen's Regulations for the Army (edit. 1857), he will find the regulations respecting Honours to be paid at Military Fu- nerals;” and at p. 35. of the same volume, the “General Instructions regarding Salutes, esta- blished by Her Majesty’s Order in Council of Feb. 1, 1838.” Section v. p. 45. prescribes the number of guns with which the Governor of Ma- dras and Bombay are entitled to be saluted, which is seventeen. Lieutenant-Governors of Her Ma- jesty’s colonies and foreign possessions are entitled to thirteen. Why Mr. Colvin received a salute of seventeen guns under these regulations, I cannot

tell; as he would, as a Lieut.-Governor, appear to |

be entitled to thirteen only. In Article 7. of the section last quoted, it is provided that civil func- tionaries shall have at their funerals the same number of guns fired as minute-guns, while the procession is going to the burial ground, as they were entitled to as salutes when living.

Joun Macrean. Hammersmith.

In answer to Mr. Lioyrp respecting the salute of seventeen guns fired on the death of the late Mr. Colvin, Lieut.-Governor of the N. W. Provinces of Bengal, I can refer him to an order of the Go- vernor-General in Council, dated Dec, 7, 1852, in

which the salutes for the various officials are duly regulated. The order is too long to transcribe here, but it will be sufficient to state that, among others, the Governors of Bengal, Madras, Bombay, N. W. Provinces, and Prince of Wales’ Island are allowed seventeen guns. The bishops of either Presidency fifteen guns. The lowest number fired in a salute is seven, which is allowed to captains and commodores in the Indian or Royal navies.

Can there be any reason why the salutes should invariably consist of an odd number of guns? And can any of your correspondents inform me by whom and when the royal salute was fixed at twenty-one guns? W. B.

Londinopolis (2™ §. iv. 470. 521.) The cop of Howell's Zondinopolis in the Philadelphia Li- brary contains the same gap in the paging from 128. to 301. as the copies noted already ; but it is evident, not only from the context but from the Table of Contents, that nothing is missing. It is probable that two printers were engaged at the work, and that the one who printed the second part was misled by an erroneous supposition that the first part would cover 300 pages. Unepa.

Aldermen in Livery, §c. (2 8. v.25.) —Amongst the Ordinances of the Corporation of Doncaster, 1617, was one which enacted that “no retainer, being servant to any nobleman, Knight, gentle- man, or other, or wearing their liveries, should be elected to the 24 capital burgesses.” C. J.

Trish High Sheriffs (2™ S. v. 156.) The Lords of the Treasury having, when too late, discovered the worth of the man whom they allowed for many years to take charge of the Exchequer Records of Ireland, with the sole reward afforded by his own enthusiastic love of them, after his death gave his representatives 700/., with the condition that his MS. collections should be deposited in the Ex- chequer for the public benefit. The labours of the life of the late James J. Ferguson were thus handed over to the country; and I have no doubt his Exchequer Notes” will be found amongst the mass of documents now in charge of Master Hitchcock. I should be much obliged by any in- formation as to the present state of Mr. Fergu- son’s MSS. Have they been arranged and bound, so as to be available for consultation? or are they still lying in the unarranged and unclassified state in which the sudden demise of their lamented collector left them ?

The Memoranda Rolls of the Exchequer (of which there is a very full series in Master Hitch- cock’s care) record the names of the sheriffs of each county in Ireland who made their proffers,” or were fined for not performing that duty, at Easter and Michaelmas, every year. The defi- ciencies of the Exchequer series are supplied by

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the Memoranda Rolls and Great Rolls of the Pipe in the Record Tower, Dublin Castle. Sir Ber- nard Burke, Ulster King of Arms, is now the worthy custodian of the latter records.

Whilst we hear of the noble effort now in pro- gress in England, to rescue from oblivion the materials of the national history, are such records as the Rolls of the Irish Parliament, the Irish Exchequer Memoranda Rolls, and the Great Rolls of the Pipe in Ireland, to be suffered to moulder

in oblivion? Surely here are ample materials |

for the history of Great Britain !” James GRAVES. Kilkenny.

Plays at Public Schools: Silvester (2™ S. iii. 133.) I hope Dr. Doran will forgive my point-

ing out an inaccuracy in his statement upon

the subject of plays at public schools above re- |

ferred to.

It is true Garrick was present, and so much pleased with the general performance, that he presented the boys with the scenes; but it is in- correct to state that he (Garrick) enticed Syl- vester to turn actor, for Silvester (not Sylvester) was elected from Merchant Taylors’ School in June, 1764, to a Scholarship, and in June, 1766,

to a Law Fellowship in St. John’s College, Ox- |

ford. He was called to the Bar at the Middle

Temple, Feb. 1772, admitted one of the Common |

Pleaders of the City of London in Sept. 1774, elected Common Sergeant in July, 1790, and una- nimously elected Recorder of London in October, 1803. He was created a Baronet in 1814, and died in March, 1822.

It will be seen by this that “poor Silvester” never had anything to do as an actor, other than at the Old Bailey Sessions, where he performed his part as one of the best criminal judges of his day. The statement is therefore entirely one of fiction as regards poor Silvester ;” whether any other of the performers were enticed away I can- not say, but the performances were discontinued after two seasons (1762 and 1763), the Merchant Taylors’ Company disapproving of them, as likely to draw the attention of the scholars from more useful pursuits and more important acquirements.

J. Sreep D.

Bird's-eye View of Towns (2™ S. v. 130.) —I have seen some very interesting bird's-eye views of several French towns, e.g. Lyons, Avignon, Arles, and Nismes, published at no distant period, and called, if I remember rightly, La France aérienne.” C. W. Brneuam.

Major-General Claud Martin (1* S. xii. 453. ; 2™ S. v. 137.) Among the Wellesley Papers preserved in the British Museum are two certified copies of the will of this individual, dated Janu- ary 1,1800. (Add. MS. 13,863.) The original consisted of no less than 80 pages, with an ab-

| stract annexed, on 9 pages more. One of the above copies was submitted by the executors of the testator to W. Burroughs, Advocate-General at Calcutta, for his opinion and advice as to the | proper mode of carrying the will into execution, and it has his remarks written on the margins. The other copy was in like manner submitted to Francis Macnaghten, Esq., and has his remarks also on the margins. There is, moreover, a por- tion of a third copy of the will, with the remarks of Robert Leslie on it. From these papers any one interested in the bequests of Major-General | Claud Martin (not Martine) may obtain ample information on the subject. fe

| Infernas Tenebras (2™ S. iii. 30.) I cannot | find any author named Stadilus, and having found | the passage, which is somewhat inaccurately quoted, I infer that H. made or copied a mistake. Swin- den seemed to be the writer, but “nuper,” in 1788, was hardly applicable to a discovery an- nounced in 1714. Here is the title-page of the real book :—

“J. Burch. Menckenii de Charlataneria Eruditorum, | Declamationes duz, cum notis variorum. Accessit Epis- tola Sebastiani Stadelli, ad Janum Philomusum, De cir- cumforanea Literatorum Vanitate. Ed. sexta, Neapoli, 1786, apud Petrum Perger, Expensis Josephi de Licto, Superorum permissu.”

Menckenius in his preface dates one oration Feb. 9, 1713; the other, Feb. 14, 1715: in the | second, at p. 242., he says

“Nec magis morabor Physicos, quorum aliqui nihil om- nino in rebus, que sub sole sunt, inaccessum nibil imper- vium putant, adeo ut non modo in his, que ante oculos posita sunt, ad insaniam usque scrupulosi sint, verum et

* Tentare cavus uteri et terebrare latebras,” assueti, in ipsum terre centrum descendant, ignisque sub- terranei vires causticas explorent, imo et ipsum tentent primum mundi chaos, ac preterea in Luna homines, de- mones et gehennam querant in sole.” *

In the Acta Eruditorum the book is reviewed, but Swinden’s name is not given. I do not know whether the first edition was anonymous; the second is by Tobias Swinden, late rector of Cux- | tone in Kent.”

I believe that all these books are very common. Firzuorxins.

Garrick Club.

Permanent Settlement of Lord Cornwallis (2° | S. v. 88.) The following extract from an article | entitled A Chronological Account of the Con- | nexion between England and India,” in the Com- | panion to the Almanach for the present year will probably afford your correspondent C. K. the in- formation he requires :

“1789. The decennial settlement of the lands com-

*“Tnfernales tenebras, que nemini hactenus morta- lium viventi patuere, in sole lucidissimo nuper visus est oculatissimus Anglus Anonymus, de quo vide Acta Eru- ditorum, 1715, Men. Mart., p. 107.”

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menced towards the end of the year in Bengal. In the following year the same regulation was begun in Bahar. The whole was completed in 1793, when, in pursuance of instructions from England, the settlement was declared perpetual,”

By this settlement, which produced such an important change in that large portion of India, the Zemindars,

vernment, usually hereditary and possessed of much power and influence, but not owners of the land, which they could neither sell nor alienate, were declared the actual landowners, and from them the principal revenue of India was to be derived, in the shape of land-tax. The ryots, or peasantry, who, though often grievously

levied upon it, were declared the tenants of the Zemin- dars. The effects of this financial measure were disas- trous. The Zemindars, obliged to go through the legal formalities to collect their rents from the ryots, were unable to pay their taxes to the Government, whose pro- ceedings were summary. Their lands were gradually sold for arrears of taxes, and passed into the hands of absentee landlords. In a few years great numbers of the Zemin- dars disappeared. No improvement took place among the ryots, who were perhaps more oppressed by the mid- dlemen immediately above them than they had been by the Zemindars.”

Jan. 1781 —a very interesting period and the stirring events of which are chronicled by Walpole with the mi- nuteness almost of a newspaper, but with a brilliancy peculiarly his own. The present volume contains up- wards of twenty letters hitherto unpublished: a few to Grosvenor Bedford, but the greater portion to Lord Har-

court. The volume is illustrated with portraits of Madame

who were in fact the revenue agents of the Mogul Go- | Du Deffand and the Duchess of Choiseul, of the Chud-

leigh Duchess of Kingston, and of the Young Pretender, the Duke of Albany, and of his Duchess.

We have this week to introduce to our Readers and to invite them to give a cordial welcome to a kinsman from across the Atlantic—the First Volume of a work which owes its origin to our own success. The Historical

oppressed, were the real owners of the soil, of which they | Magazine and Notes and Queries concerning the Antiquities, could not be dispossessed while they paid the assessments | 4 7 - ; som yP | modelled after our own journal, that to speak in its praise

History, and Biography of America, is so completely

is almost to sound our own. It has, however, withal its own peculiar characteristics: for, although as might well have been the case, seeing that our early literature is

| also the early literature of our transatlantic brethren, its

consideration might occupy a large portion of an Ameri- can Notes and Queries, the Editor has with great judg-

| ment preserved the national character of his journal, and

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Somerset House.

Mr. De Quincy's Story of Ann” (2" §S. iv. 472.; v. 57.), and a most affecting one it is, is given in full in pp. 47. to 54. of The Confessions of an English Opium Eater, 3rd edit., London, Taylor and Hessey, 1823. there described as a “beautiful girl,” but as a very young (under sixteen), gentle, and generous being, to whose timely aid he was indebted for his

life when sinking from extreme exhaustion. The narrative is given as if intended to be read as a fact! G. B.

Shull and Butterfly (2° S. v. 147.) —I should much doubt whether the above emblem, and its accompanying motto, Que sais-je?” were ever used heraldically. They formed, however, the device of an individual, whose name I should be happy to give privately to Arc moxoaist, if it at all concerns him to know. He was one of a little

She is not, however, |

party of long-scattered Oxford friends, some | | script of the 13th Century on vellum, beautifully written

thirty years since. We had been much struck with the beauty of the symbol, as figured in vol. iii. p. 356. of Heyne’s Virgil (edit. Lips., mpccc.), and adopted it for a season on our seals and book- plates, though with different mottos. Que sais- je ?” was one.

Miscellaneous. NOTES ON BOOKS AND BOOK SALES,

We have received the Seventh Volume of The Letters of Horace Walpole, Earl of Orford, edited by Peter Cun- ningham, now First Chronologically"Arranged, and which contains Walpole’s Correspondence from Noy, 1777 to

C. W. Bixeuaq. |

invested it with a thoroughly national interest a fact which, while it has ensured its success in the States, has added greatly to its use and value to the literary world of England. In conclusion we may remark, that it rivals our own volumes in the completeness of its Index.

The Clerical Directory ; a Biographical and Statistical Book of Reference for Facts relating to the Clergy and the Church, by the Conductors of the Clerical Journal, is a goodly quarto volume, containing not only an Alpha- betical List of the Clergy, but such additional inform- ation as makes it a Biographical Directory.

Fairy Fables, by Cuthbert Bede, with Illustrations by Alfred Crowquill. A very amusing and pleasant story for young children, who will assuredly not like the book the less for the quaint woodcuts with which Alfred Crow- quill has illustrated it. °

Those of our readers who know the extraordinary skill with which Mr. John Harris has been in the habit of completing rare books by facsimiles of the missing por- tions will learn with regret that, in consequence of the failure of his eyesight, he is no longer able to follow his profession. We refer to our advertising columns for further particulars of a case which well deserves the sympathy of lovers of books.

The valuable Library of the late Rt. Hon. Lord Al- vanley was sold by Messrs. Sornzesy & WILKINSON on Feb. 15, and five following days. Among others we select the following lots:

Lot 209. Biblia Sacra Latina, cum Epistola 8S. Hie- ronymi et Interpretatione Hebraicoram Nominum. Manu-

in a very distinct hand, having numerous elegant capitals executed in various colours, old calf binding, with brass corners and clasps. 13/. 13s,

This fine Manuscript formerly belonged to John Crewe, Esq. of Utkinton, whose autograph signature, with his MS. note stating that Acts is placed after ye Hebrews & next before James,” is on the fly-leaf. Previously it was in the possession of John Wat- kyn, sonne of Gyfford Watkyn, of Watford, in North- amptonshire.”

210. Bible (Holy) Authorised Version, an edition un-

| known to Lowndes, Robert Barker, 1613—Herrey (R. F.)

| } | |

Two Concordances, 1613—Book of Common Prayer, 1614 —Psalmes in Meeter, with apt Notes to sing them withall, 1615.

Black letter, beautiful copies in old richly gilt calf, with

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the Royal Arms on the sides, gilt gauffré edges, from the Library of his Majesty James I., and afterwards the

y of John Crewe, whose autograph signature is on the cover. 271.

291. Bibles (Holy), 2 vols. vignettes by Vander Gucht. Large paper, very fine copy, ruled in old English blue morocco, gilt edges, on which a Coat of Arms, Flowers and Insects are painted. Oxford, John Baskett, 1717. 7.

At the end of this copy of The Vinegar Bible” is inserted Downame’s Concordance, printed in 1726, inlaid and ruled to match.

292. Bible (Holy), the authorised Version (Acts vi. 3. being printed “whom ye may appoint”), with Royal Arms by Hollar, and engraved title by Lombart, large paper, extremely rare, beautiful copy, ruled throughout with red lines, Cambridge, John Field, 1659.—Book of Common Prayer, with the Occasional Services (including that of the Healing), black letter, large paper, very scarce, beautiful copy, ruled throughout, Assigns of J. Bill and C. Barker, 1669. Uniformly and magnificently bound in old English blue morocco, covered with elaborate gold tooling, and having a Crucifixion painted on the leaves of each volume under the gilding. 2 vols. 552

These beautiful specimens of old English binding were | y¢°/vingter

“the gift of the Right Honourable Nathaniel Crewe, Ld. Bishop of Darham, to his godson Devereux Knightley, Sept. 1681.” They “came from ye Do-

mestick chapel at Utkinton,” and are ye property |

of John Arden, Esq. May 28, 1753.” The first in- scription in the autograph of Bp. Crewe, and the second in that of J. Arden, Esq.

294. Book of Common Prayer, tirst edition, very fine copy, extremely rare, imprinted by Edwarde Whit- churche, the seventh daye of Marche, 1549. Book of Common Prayer, black letter, scarce edition, unknown to Lowndes, Deputies of C. Barker, 1596.—Psalter after the translation of the great Bible pointed as it shall be sung or said in Churches, black letter, Deputies of C. Barker, 1597.—Book of Common Prayer, black letter, R. Barker, 1607.—Psalter after the translation of the great Bible,

inted, black letter, R. Barker, 1606-7. Psalmes in Sreeter, with apt Notes to sing them withall, black letter, printed for the Company of Stationers, 1606, all fine copies. Inivol. 87/.

The edition, by E. Whitchurche, dated 7th March, 1549, is of the greatest rarity. lt varies from the editions issued in May and June in the same year, as will be seen by its collation, which is as follows :Title- page with “The contentes of this Booke” printed on the back, one leaf; Preface, one leaf; The Table and Kalender, eight leaves; An Ordre for Mattyns, &c. ending with the Communion Service, folio 1— cxxxum (vm and Lx being repeated); The Letany and Suffrages, three leaves not numbered; Of the Administracion of Publyke Baptisme, &c. folio 1— xxxvu, having on the reverse of last leaf (con- taining imprint) the Royal Order respecting the

rice of publication.

592. Dibdin (T. F.) Bibliographical Decameron, 3 vols. imp. 8vo., large paper, the numerous beautiful engravings in the choicest condition, many of them in different states, with several of the original exquisite Drawings (16 illu- minated), by G. R. Lewis, inserted, together with several additional plates, including private portraits of the author, Mr. Leigh, Duke of Roxburghe, Lord Spencer, Honest Tom Payne, &c. 48.

1554. Parliament (The) houlden att Westminster the fourth of Ffebruary the third yeare of or Soveraigne Lerd Kinge Henry the Eigth. An important heraldic roll on parchment (above 18 feet long and 1 foot wide) on which is represented a walking procession of Henry

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VIII. and his Peers in their robes, depicted in their proper colours, and having the names of each person neatly written in scrolls above his coats of arms, cor- rectly blazoned. 322 Apparently executed at the time (1512), and a great curiosity. In the Index Indicatorius of the Gentle- man’s Magazine for February, 1795, an inquiry was made after this procession stated to have been in the hands of the Rev. Mr. Allen, Rector of Toporly, Cheshire, in 1774. The inquirer, however, errone- ously described it as a procession on horseback.

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